tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2985287502362877219.post6703329123552055102..comments2023-11-10T11:44:01.894-05:00Comments on The Miller: AR-15 Pistol ModsJB Millerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06747865545380623939noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2985287502362877219.post-760046883009791282012-12-09T11:10:33.552-05:002012-12-09T11:10:33.552-05:00The specific fore-grip is one of the few that is O...The specific fore-grip is one of the few that is OK. Everyone uses it for that. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2985287502362877219.post-75349736802049084822012-12-09T11:01:51.843-05:002012-12-09T11:01:51.843-05:00Doesn't that forward grip turn it into a SBR? ...Doesn't that forward grip turn it into a SBR? I thought you couldn't augment grip past the mag well? Otherwise, not sure it's intended purpose but it looks heavy for a "pistol". Regardless, nice looking weapon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2985287502362877219.post-77163526853922400072012-10-21T12:22:59.740-04:002012-10-21T12:22:59.740-04:00Les, if I was going to go down that road, I'd ...Les, if I was going to go down that road, I'd go with the MK-18 Mod.0 It does the same thing, but WITH a shoulder stock, and it's been proven VERY effective in certain operations. JB is doing what he likes, and that's fine by me! :-)Old NFOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16404197287935017147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2985287502362877219.post-90387459826576113142012-10-20T16:17:06.711-04:002012-10-20T16:17:06.711-04:00OldNFO, I'm not comfortable getting between 2 ...OldNFO, I'm not comfortable getting between 2 friends over an issue (unless we're at the Bar, hint! hint!), but I now see what the appeal is for the Miller.<br /><br />Let's look at the Math first. I've always been concerned about the 5.56 Nato/.223 Remington being fired in short barrels, since it came from a Varmint Round (.222 Remington). And those work best out of Long Barrels.<br /><br />But I checked a Ballistics Table or Two, and I discovered that in a 10 inch Barrel, a 55 gr Bullet has a Muzzle Velocity of about 2700 fps/916 ft.lbs. The 62 gr. runs about 2600/950 ft.lbs. Which tends to be a LOT Higher than a standard pistol round.<br /><br />So for Long Distance, it's not the Best Platform. And a LOT of Pistols are MUCH Easier to use for CQB. But I think I know what it's Tactical Niche is, and why it's Valid. It's NOT a Pistol, even though it has to be Classified as such for the BATFE. It's a Modern Version of the Stage Coach Shotgun. Or a Tanker's Grease Gun.<br /><br />Now, if one was FORCED to do a Bug Out, and who ever was stuck riding Shot Gun in the Passenger Seat, this would be a Comfort to have. Think about the Space Limitations, and how hard it would be to reload a Pistol. Yeah, I know, Glock has the 33 Round Mags, but then one would need a Glock. And if one would be carrying a 1911, well then.<br /><br />And I'm NOT Advocating this at all, but I could see in a Total Societal Collapse, where the last thing one would worry about was the BATFE, then HYPOTHETICALLY one could put on a Stock and have a SBR.<br /><br />Plus, from a Supply Stand Point, one Ammo Supply, one Magazine Supply, one Pouch/Vest, it is appealing from the K.I.S.S. viewpoint. And a lot easier to pack around.<br /><br />And of course, if it is threaded for a Suppressor, well it would be a lot more Maneuverable and Quieter in CQB during a Total Collapse. And don't forget, one could always change out the Upper and add a Stock to convert it back to a Standard M4 or M16.<br /><br />Now, personally, it's not my cup of Tea. But most PDW's or Sub Guns aren't either. And J.B., I'd still carry a Good Pistol with lots of Reloads. Remember, one shouldn't put ALL their Eggs in one Basket.<br /><br />But I am being tempted myself to get one of those. Must be succumbing to the Dark Side of the Force, I guess. Good thing I'm too poor right now. But maybe down the road....Bubblehead Les.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00730873284089958084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2985287502362877219.post-29966118468774507382012-10-20T13:35:40.497-04:002012-10-20T13:35:40.497-04:00I think it's more of an SBR without the tax st...I think it's more of an SBR without the tax stamp. If you had a single point sling I would shoot it like one.Weston11http://a0.twimg.com/profile_images/1238464916/Nichols_Weston_11_sm_Twitter.jpgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2985287502362877219.post-74125230613000960472012-10-20T13:16:17.270-04:002012-10-20T13:16:17.270-04:00Why??? With that much weight there is NO way that ...Why??? With that much weight there is NO way that is an effective pistol! I'd bet that weighs between 8-9 lbs!!!Old NFOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16404197287935017147noreply@blogger.com